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CrimzonJester
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 03:39 AM
Oh damn.. finally some good hardcore music.. tho i wish a few more people wanted to gabber pit... would of loved that.. but hey.. and .. ohh my desires have been set to low.. I got my cuddles finally.. and Oh was it nice.. ya i know pathetic.... but hey.. when you dont get any love of any sort for 6 months.. cuddles are better then sex.. RON D. CORE RAWKS!!!!!!!!!

Cyrus
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:51 AM
lol dude, its travis =D...you should bring fire pois to the next rave...man that would be awesome

KaliMist
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:33 AM
FUCK YEA. AoA rocked out with its cock out, and the owner of the cock was RON D FUCKIN CORE!!!! alot of other good DJ's, cant think of one time in the nite when i wasnt feelin it. HELL YES my ears are still ringing. I saw maybe one actual cop, and a bunch of security! o nooooo. (lol, im only sad i didnt get a SHIRT FOO,lol) damn im still pumped. Fuckin YES>now i just have to go develop my film and spend a day scanning and Adobe photoshopping it up. good vibes, INVADER ZIM, Killer sets, HARDCORE, and ect lead this to a pretty bad ass party. IDK. I got some good pics, cant wait! FUCK YEA> \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:38 AM
haha, i remember some girls and security making a cop hop up and down

the cop was digging the tunes !

StrawbrryStitchz
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:59 AM
i heard it blew. from a reliable source... who ended up leaving to go ice because it sucked so bad. *thats sad right there*

very glad i didnt waste any money on it!


awol is still the best. <3

CrimzonJester
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 12:04 PM
nahh he just showe up at the wrong time

o0Tigger0o
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 01:29 PM
Party was kool ... a hell of a vibe .. pritty good for a Munchie party .. Im surprized that he got Ron D. Core .. hell yah .. Though .. i woiuld have rung his neck if the star DJ wasnt there .. but man .. MAD props to Munchie for bringing out Ron D. Core .... the party wasnt bad .. but the sound in the first room was kinda bad .. second roon was off the hook though .. and I'm sorry mabe its just me but .. the whole buying tickets at the door .. thru the window of a mobile home wasn't the start of a good time ... nither was the .. NO REENTRY bullshit .. Somthing needs to really be done about a new venue .. cause.. . everytime it's always the daamn for cheyane Casino . would be kool if it was that big ass room like Chad had .. but no .. we that that Stupid ass dinky rooms on the side .. oh and we couldnt go outside to go smoke .. what kinda bullshit was that .. other then venue problems .. party was kool .. OH YEAH .. CLEAN YOUR BATHROOMS BITCH ..

eLectroChickLP
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 02:42 PM
Party was kool ... a hell of a vibe .. pritty good for a Munchie party .. Im surprized that he got Ron D. Core .. hell yah .. Though .. i woiuld have rung his neck if the star DJ wasnt there .. but man .. MAD props to Munchie for bringing out Ron D. Core .... the party wasnt bad .. but the sound in the first room was kinda bad .. second roon was off the hook though .. and I'm sorry mabe its just me but .. the whole buying tickets at the door .. thru the window of a mobile home wasn't the start of a good time ... nither was the .. NO REENTRY bullshit .. Somthing needs to really be done about a new venue .. cause.. . everytime it's always the daamn for cheyane Casino . would be kool if it was that big ass room like Chad had .. but no .. we that that Stupid ass dinky rooms on the side .. oh and we couldnt go outside to go smoke .. what kinda bullshit was that .. other then venue problems .. party was kool .. OH YEAH .. CLEAN YOUR BATHROOMS BITCH ..


haha, u said munchie party! that's cuteness!

i'm glad nothing went down, i was worried about everyone. Sorry i missed it. See you all at ice next saturday tho!


~Christy~

trancedj
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 03:07 PM
this was a good event!!!!!! bad ass music and a underground feel \:D/ yeah shity venue but id rather have a shity venue then none at all!!!!

ITS NOT ABOUT THE VENUE ITS ABOUT THE MUSIC!

Thanks rob & the hippie groove crew >\:] >|<

Capsule
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 03:26 PM
definitely gonna be more hardcore sounds in las vegas I believe ;)

Cyrus
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 03:44 PM
ITS NOT ABOUT THE VENUE ITS ABOUT THE MUSIC!


=D> =D> \:D/ \:D/ =D> =D> \:D/ \:D/

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 04:42 PM
haha reliable source my ass

go to your fucking clubs and stay there please.

djsin
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 04:47 PM
like i said before, if didnt have a good time at the party, tell specifically what u didnt like about it and im sure that the next person will take that as contructive critisism and learn off of it. i just wish everyone could have a good time like i did 8(. i had (like i always do) an awsome time. i had a fabulous time at Groove and i had an awsome time at AoA. ask tranceinmotion and a bunch of others, i can have a good time anywhere lol, course i had to have six pack to let loose, well actually a five cause i shared one right brandon ;) and the guy with the six pack of apple juice.......i mean Corona lol, sorry i most definatly think that BudLight is waaaaaay better lol, but hey to each his own right. anyway, the party was awsome, besides the lights comming on and helping security get the skylift so that we can unscrew them, cause we couldnt quite reach them with the ladder lol. i just hope that we have lots more partys and house partys at that and about getting a new venue, i beleive hippie and awol r trying to find a new one, but don quote me on that. anyway, hope to c everyone if not more ppl at the next party. P.L.U.R.

wonk
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 04:57 PM
Oh, dude - I thought it was a great little party. My only complaint is the bathroom situation, but that's not Rob's/Hippie Groove's fault. I thought the light coming on was hella funny. It added a bit o' charm. "A very well-lit rave" at the beginning. ;)

If people didn't like it, then that's there prerogtive, but need we make rude comments to each-other or to the promoter..? This kind of inner-bickering is what prevailed our (lack of) scene before for many years. Insulting each-other does not promote the growth of the scene or of our little community. It promotes dissention. If you didn't like the party, then that's a shame and hopefully you'll give the next one a chance and like it better. At least Rob's crew is trying to throw parties and help get things rolling. He's actually doing something when most people would just rather comment.

And to that, I say good job. I had a blast - can't wait for the next one.

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:15 PM
Oh, dude - I thought it was a great little party. My only complaint is the bathroom situation, but that's not Rob's/Hippie Groove's fault. I thought the light coming on was hella funny. It added a bit o' charm. "A very well-lit rave" at the beginning. ;)

If people didn't like it, then that's there prerogtive, but need we make rude comments to each-other or to the promoter..? This kind of inner-bickering is what prevailed our (lack of) scene before for many years. Insulting each-other does not promote the growth of the scene or of our little community. It promotes dissention. If you didn't like the party, then that's a shame and hopefully you'll give the next one a chance and like it better. At least Rob's crew is trying to throw parties and help get things rolling. He's actually doing something when most people would just rather comment.

And to that, I say good job. I had a blast - can't wait for the next one.yeah, im getting real sick of this negetive talk on these parties people are trying to throw for us including HippiGroove, AWOL, Owenhoff, Netwerk, Eraver, CAmmyjammmy dood....and whoever else im forgetting thats trying to build this community up and blow it the fuck up.

if you don't care about that, then what do YOU care about?

i mean wtf, they all have the same objective here. You either like these parties or you don't.

they all have thier problems..., every party you can find something to bitch about if thats what your looking for.

wheres the love for the scene?
nate-

Toria
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:15 PM
I fuckin had an awsome time. ron d core and kthought tore it up.whoo hoo for day glow lasers. i passed out in a chair at like 3 listen to whoever was in the first room ( i think is was cik vs kore but i'm not sure) and to everyone new and all the people i know thanks for making the party awsome. Oh yeah i was the chick with the glowsticks and pigtails chillin by the laser most of the night. rob may have his down falls and is the most unorganized person i've ever met but at least he tries. if you don't like his parties thorw your own and see how easy it isn't and listen to people bitch about you doing the scene a favor, he could say fuck you all and we would have never seen ron d core.


Victoria

Brando
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:37 PM
Hey both AoA and Groove was tight, i would of had more fun at groove if i was there longer cuz leaving at 12 freakin sucked right when i was starting to have fun and call on me came on, i was pissed because i actually didnt get kicked out my freinds mom sudennly changed her mind and he had to come home instead of coming to our house to spend the night. it really sucked. But otherwise that groove had really good music and damn good party vibe, but at Age of Aquarius i really didnt care about how everyone else was dancing, because i know i had a fun time dancing all night, no matter who else was dancing or watching me.

djsin
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:41 PM
to'shey (did i spell that right lol) Rob did an awsome job throwing that party to everyone who didnt appreciate his and his crew's hard work..............well take a walk and like she said ^ throw ur own party and c how much stressful it is, just seeing Rob running around like a chicken with his head cut off looks pretty stressful lol, idk how it is for Chad cause im sure hes done this for a while, but im sure its still stressful for him. anyway, the bottom line is, hippie and awol and everyone else throw these partys for us and to make a scene here in vegas, everyone says that vegas sux at party's and such, i would definatly have to disagree. cmon ppl this is the entertainment capital of the world lol, i pretty sure we can do better than this, but hey, we gotta make due with what we got right. just remember, we go to these party's and to this site non the less, (more importantly) to support the scene. its all about P.L.U.R














ok, ill shut up now

*TOXIC*
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 05:57 PM
Oh, dude - I thought it was a great little party. My only complaint is the bathroom situation, but that's not Rob's/Hippie Groove's fault. I thought the light coming on was hella funny. It added a bit o' charm. "A very well-lit rave" at the beginning. ;)

If people didn't like it, then that's there prerogtive, but need we make rude comments to each-other or to the promoter..? This kind of inner-bickering is what prevailed our (lack of) scene before for many years. Insulting each-other does not promote the growth of the scene or of our little community. It promotes dissention. If you didn't like the party, then that's a shame and hopefully you'll give the next one a chance and like it better. At least Rob's crew is trying to throw parties and help get things rolling. He's actually doing something when most people would just rather comment.

And to that, I say good job. I had a blast - can't wait for the next one.yeah, im getting real sick of this negetive talk on these parties people are trying to throw for us including HippiGroove, AWOL, Owenhoff, Netwerk, Eraver, CAmmyjammmy dood....and whoever else im forgetting thats trying to build this community up and blow it the fuck up.

if you don't care about that, then what do YOU care about?

i mean wtf, they all have the same objective here. You either like these parties or you don't.

they all have thier problems..., every party you can find something to bitch about if thats what your looking for.

wheres the love for the scene?
nate-

all there love is for UNIFICATION of the club SCENE!!!!

OH yeah and isn't it funny how there WERE NO! intimidating COPS in green uniforms dogging people, or people getting kicked out...YEAH....EXACTLEY!!

RONDCORE blew that shit up!!!!! ACID TECH FOO!!!!! everyone who got down knows who you are..HELLYEAH!!!

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 06:21 PM
Oh, dude - I thought it was a great little party. My only complaint is the bathroom situation, but that's not Rob's/Hippie Groove's fault. I thought the light coming on was hella funny. It added a bit o' charm. "A very well-lit rave" at the beginning. ;)

If people didn't like it, then that's there prerogtive, but need we make rude comments to each-other or to the promoter..? This kind of inner-bickering is what prevailed our (lack of) scene before for many years. Insulting each-other does not promote the growth of the scene or of our little community. It promotes dissention. If you didn't like the party, then that's a shame and hopefully you'll give the next one a chance and like it better. At least Rob's crew is trying to throw parties and help get things rolling. He's actually doing something when most people would just rather comment.

And to that, I say good job. I had a blast - can't wait for the next one.yeah, im getting real sick of this negetive talk on these parties people are trying to throw for us including HippiGroove, AWOL, Owenhoff, Netwerk, Eraver, CAmmyjammmy dood....and whoever else im forgetting thats trying to build this community up and blow it the fuck up.

if you don't care about that, then what do YOU care about?

i mean wtf, they all have the same objective here. You either like these parties or you don't.

they all have thier problems..., every party you can find something to bitch about if thats what your looking for.

wheres the love for the scene?
nate-

all there love is for UNIFICATION of the club SCENE!!!!

OH yeah and isn't it funny how there WERE NO! intimidating COPS in green uniforms dogging people, or people getting kicked out...YEAH....EXACTLEY!!

RONDCORE blew that shit up!!!!! ACID TECH FOO!!!!! everyone who got down knows who you are..HELLYEAH!!!haha, ya i dunno if anyone saw but right before ron d core went on that ha ha ha ha track was being played and one of the hippigroove security and some chicks were making a cop dance as he was doing his walkthrough....it was so funny i hope someone got a picture of that

he was bangin his fist to the beat like he belonged there while the girls were makin him jump up and down , haha

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 06:27 PM
but juan i def agree with you about the club scene.
it seems people are confused when they go to a rave, thinking its going to be this club atmosphere.

hippiekid
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 06:43 PM
Oh, dude - I thought it was a great little party. My only complaint is the bathroom situation, but that's not Rob's/Hippie Groove's fault. I thought the light coming on was hella funny. It added a bit o' charm. "A very well-lit rave" at the beginning. ;)

If people didn't like it, then that's there prerogtive, but need we make rude comments to each-other or to the promoter..? This kind of inner-bickering is what prevailed our (lack of) scene before for many years. Insulting each-other does not promote the growth of the scene or of our little community. It promotes dissention. If you didn't like the party, then that's a shame and hopefully you'll give the next one a chance and like it better. At least Rob's crew is trying to throw parties and help get things rolling. He's actually doing something when most people would just rather comment.

And to that, I say good job. I had a blast - can't wait for the next one.yeah, im getting real sick of this negetive talk on these parties people are trying to throw for us including HippiGroove, AWOL, Owenhoff, Netwerk, Eraver, CAmmyjammmy dood....and whoever else im forgetting thats trying to build this community up and blow it the fuck up.

if you don't care about that, then what do YOU care about?

i mean wtf, they all have the same objective here. You either like these parties or you don't.

they all have thier problems..., every party you can find something to bitch about if thats what your looking for.

wheres the love for the scene?
nate-

all there love is for UNIFICATION of the club SCENE!!!!

OH yeah and isn't it funny how there WERE NO! intimidating COPS in green uniforms dogging people, or people getting kicked out...YEAH....EXACTLEY!!

RONDCORE blew that shit up!!!!! ACID TECH FOO!!!!! everyone who got down knows who you are..HELLYEAH!!!


Yeah , there were no green uniform cops at this party. funny how we made sure of that.. We made sure of alot of things before hand , so we could bering you the scene the Vibe we want people to feel...
Now i will say there were alotr of undercovers there , which I was aware of before hand , but whats really funny on that is all of them that were suopposed to be on the list i " accidently " forgot .. i made them pay.. hehe..
And well yeah the few blue suited N. Town cops were hella chill bout the whole thing.. They had to make the appearence so it was official on the books..

So yeah anyhow.... Thanks to all that came out to support and had a good time... That in itself makes me smile.. In my opinion , i think it was a great fuking party.. We did everythjing in our powers to make it go off..
Unfortunetly the Venue has its flaws , and that shits out of our hands..

So to conclude... Myself , Rob ... Will not be doing anymore events for quite sometime.. Im sure my crew can vouch for how much time , and stress is involed , not to mention $..
I just cant do it anymore... It hurts my bank account way too much not to mention my personal life..
I love all of you that have been there for us anmd supported..
And for all of you that are whining how theres no partys , etcc.. Well u just made anopther promioter decide to STOP !!!!
And wahts sad is alot of you diodnt even come out and are bitching.. I just find that to be funny....

KaliMist
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah , there were no green uniform cops at this party. funny how we made sure of that......another promoter decide to STOP !!!!

Good lookin on the 5-0. But for the amount of Under covers there were alot of underage kids rolling, seriously, i got a pic of these two kids in eraver.net tee shirts lookin like there 12 fuckin fried on the couch. That sucks though, i went to one Hippie groove production and i would have to say u guys rawked it hard. Getting Ron D Core to come out is definately a good way to end. just sux i didnt get to go to more of ur parties. DAMNIT!

HaPPy_PiXe
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:35 PM
edited. =D

N Dizzle
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:43 PM
I wasnt hating perse. I just brought up my points of not liking the party.

I have NEVER once left a party for a club, and not ONCE left before midnight, before last night. For those that had a good time at the party....fucking awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I personally didnt.
I didnt like seeing the promoter put himself as a headliner, I didnt like the DJ booth, I didnt like not being able to go outside, I didnt like the boom box system in the 2nd room. And I dont understand how presales can sell out and end up having such a small turnout.

I do support my scene. I paid a lot of money for a party I didnt want to go to so Rob would at least make dues for what he paid for the party.

Flame on.

*TOXIC*
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:56 PM
I wasnt hating perse. I just brought up my points of not liking the party.

I have NEVER once left a party for a club, and not ONCE left before midnight, before last night. For those that had a good time at the party....fucking awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I personally didnt.
I didnt like seeing the promoter put himself as a headliner, I didnt like the DJ booth, I didnt like not being able to go outside, I didnt like the boom box system in the 2nd room. And I dont understand how presales can sell out and end up having such a small turnout.

I do support my scene. I paid a lot of money for a party I didnt want to go to so Rob would at least make dues for what he paid for the party.

Flame on.


hahahaha its all good , rob has played a lot of his parties, thank you guys (ndizzle and happepixe for supporting all of the hippiegroove events starting from freedom thru time ;) )

jUnKo MiZunO
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:59 PM
yeah all this shit talking about parties is pretty GAY


cant wait for people to start talking shit about the fluffberry social

oh wait!


they already do



it seems all ages and free isnt good enough anymore either

THAT right there tells you that

NONE

OF THESE PEOPLE

are happy with anything any promotwr throws./



they like going to clubs

they like 13 dollars drinks




when half of them arent even old enough to get into the clubs they go to..


hmm thats kinda funny isnt it?






club trash


it happens

N Dizzle
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:03 PM
This coming from the person who used to talk the most shit on the boards. What happened to you Sheena? haha

*TOXIC*
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:05 PM
This coming from the person who used to talk the most shit on the boards. What happened to you Sheena? haha

this is actually the TRUTH!!! all that boba goes to the brain....

jUnKo MiZunO
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:08 PM
This coming from the person who used to talk the most shit on the boards. What happened to you Sheena? haha

well i started to realize what goes into trying to make an ungreatful crowd of nobodies happy

Transientemotion
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:10 PM
This coming from the person who used to talk the most shit on the boards. What happened to you Sheena? haha

well i started to realize what goes into trying to make an ungreatful crowd of nobodies happy >\:]

Seraph
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:01 PM
why all the hating on clubs ? ( not only in this topic )

they arnt that bad .. its just another place to go and enjoy music

o0Tigger0o
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:15 PM
WOAH .... im sorry .. my comments snowballed into somthing else .. wow .. ok lemmie clarify what I was trying to say .... I went to the party JUST to fucking party .. and lemmie tell you .. I HAD A FUCKING BLAST .. RON D. CORE FUCKING RAWKED MY FUCKING SAWKS ... I mean .. old faces .. good vibe good music ... was great . i dunno how i can explain it anymore then that .. lmao ... but .. the venue could have used some improvments .. like .. lets see .. i was glowsticking and i felt drops of water on my head ... had no clue where they were comin from .. lmao .. it was funny .. i looked like i was on acid loking at somthing .. lmao ... the bathrooms .. im sorry ... but .. they were bad ... really bad .. i wouldnt exspect a bum to do his bizness in there .. lmao .. i didnt exspect this place to be emaculate .. but .. alittle clenlyness wouldnt hurt anyone .. and would made the place look alittle better .. ..and also .. no reentry ... the bathrooms were really bad ... so .. going somwhere else . to use them m .. was outta the question .. cmon ... the bathrooms bad .. so you make us use the nasty toilets . where we could proly catch somthing and be sick ... yukky ... im sorry ... anyone else feel this way .. or is it just me that want sto stay healthy ? other then that .. i thought the baloons were a nice touch .. and the main room was kool .. verry nicely decorated .. verry cumfy place .. just needs some work .... Like i sai d.. i had a fucking blast at the rave .. and its only things that i saw ... but the place was awsoem ... mad props to munchie ... verry nice ...

zinniz
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:16 PM
I could care less who throws a party. All that matters to me is if there's room to dance and if there's good music, everything else is just extra.

I can't go bashing about clubs as I can't go to a good one for a good 4 years. So I will wait until I get to one before I even start talking about them.

N Dizzle
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:17 PM
Like I said, if you had a good time, rock the fuck on. I just wasnt feeling it. Maybe if I dropped a pill I woulda enjoyed it? Who knows =)

PLUR BITCHES RIGHT?! haha <3

o0Tigger0o
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:19 PM
OK so the party rawked .. ok leave it at that ..

KaliMist
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:22 PM
lol the bathrooms and the dirty stanky feeling kind of reminded me of ghetto cali. (sigh) i miss home!!!

Brando
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:28 PM
I liked it when one of the Dj's qouted my favorite comedian bill hicks, about american gladiator that was fuckin awesome

N Dizzle
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:32 PM
We. Want. Your. Soul.

WhiSpeRs
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:37 PM
yea this party had a better vibe and it felt more homely...than the party last weekend.

guardian
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:39 PM
I wasnt hating perse. I just brought up my points of not liking the party.

I have NEVER once left a party for a club, and not ONCE left before midnight, before last night. For those that had a good time at the party....fucking awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I personally didnt.
I didnt like seeing the promoter put himself as a headliner, I didnt like the DJ booth, I didnt like not being able to go outside, I didnt like the boom box system in the 2nd room. And I dont understand how presales can sell out and end up having such a small turnout.

I do support my scene. I paid a lot of money for a party I didnt want to go to so Rob would at least make dues for what he paid for the party.

Flame on.

Sure looks like your having a good time here.


[600:480]http://www.acidwarped.com/test/ndizzle.jpg


yeah i didn't feel like rotating it

Cyrus
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:51 PM
blahhhh we want more pictures up!! this party rocked and if you dont agree you can slap my ass and call me charlie

Seraph
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:56 PM
Like I said, if you had a good time, rock the fuck on. I just wasnt feeling it. Maybe if I dropped a pill I woulda enjoyed it? Who knows =)

PLUR BITCHES RIGHT?! haha <3

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah !

fun like them ???
that looks really fun .. and also clean

[600:600]http://ravingseraph.com/photos/age_of_aquarius/aoa_2-19-05-106.jpg :?

guardian
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:05 PM
WE use to do that at the track, hahahahaha!

You wanna talk about clean!

lol

jUnKo MiZunO
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:05 PM
why all the hating on clubs ? ( not only in this topic )

they arnt that bad .. its just another place to go and enjoy music

there is nothing wrong with clubs.

its gay to compare them to "raves" or bar weeklys though

thewhiteape
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:40 PM
well boys and girls, welcome to the future.

Age of Aquarius had a good vibe, awesome talent (for the most part), went strong until 5am, and most importantly, had the real music. Ron D Core dropped the sickest set I've ever heard in Nevada (He will return in the future to tap that ass again... this time with TERRORCORE). Much thanks to all that attendend, both locals as well as those who made the trek from Arizona and California.

Ron Ignacio Enterprises, the main investor of this event, is capable of pursuing further interests. The hardcore las vegas team is also primed and ready to rock. You have seen the beginning, grassroots as it may be, of the future. Back to the Underground.

To chime in on the whole rave vs. club thing, I have nothing against clubs, as a matter of fact, I very often enjoy clubs, and have produced clubs, but raves and clubs are two very very different beings. Go to clubs, have a good time at clubs, just do not confuse a club (whether it be all ages or 21+) with a rave.

I'm not one to unneccessarily bash music styles I which aren't my favorites. Foo-foo type trance with 3 minute hollywood breaks, cheesey house with overt build-ups, and anything else which you could probably hear on the radio or in the gym is quite alright- in its own place- the club. A rave is a place to get what you cant get in a more mainstream setting. If you see a grey line, you are thinking of a club; there is no grey line. Thus, we are calling out all the real ravers for future events.

Hardcore Las Vegas takes flight this spring, with preliminary plans already underway

100% underground vibe
100% rave underground music
0% bullshit
CHEAP ENTRY.

low-pro dirty ass stinky smelly locations.

hardcore techno
gabberhouse
hard techno
acid techno
banging techno
oldschool techno and early rave
ambient trance
(genuine) hard trance
goa/psy trance

basically, if its tolerable by a middle-aged midwest tourist who wants to put on a shiny shirt and "go out drinking and dancing tonight", you won't find it here.

stay tuned.

Seraph
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:42 PM
why all the hating on clubs ? ( not only in this topic )

they arnt that bad .. its just another place to go and enjoy music

there is nothing wrong with clubs.

its gay to compare them to "raves" or bar weeklys though

why is it gay to compare a club to a rave or a bar or something like that ?

what am i going to compare a club to .. umm golfing or maybe a swimming pool ?

lol just playin

Brando
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:26 PM
yea this party had a better vibe and it felt more homely...than the party last weekend.

That is exaclty what i feel, although last week was good too.

hippiekid
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:34 PM
I wasnt hating perse. I just brought up my points of not liking the party.

I have NEVER once left a party for a club, and not ONCE left before midnight, before last night. For those that had a good time at the party....fucking awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I personally didnt.
I didnt like seeing the promoter put himself as a headliner, I didnt like the DJ booth, I didnt like not being able to go outside, I didnt like the boom box system in the 2nd room. And I dont understand how presales can sell out and end up having such a small turnout.

I do support my scene. I paid a lot of money for a party I didnt want to go to so Rob would at least make dues for what he paid for the party.

Flame on.

How do you figure 10:15 till 11:15 is a headline slot ? John opened for Ron which was the headliner , then after him foolowed K-thought..
And as far as your comment bout trainwrecking.. Funny that l;ike 50 kids came up and gave me props when i got off the decks.. And none of them even knew i was involved in the party at all...
Granted yes a few of my mixes were a lil rough going from trance to nrg and then back to trance but there were no wrecks.. Just 2 diferent basslines coming in together..
Regardless im sorry you had a bad time.. You are one of a few trhat said that...
As for presales we sold out in california even before we released Vegas tickets so they were very limited..
Not being able to go outside was the venue , not us.. They made it that way so that the oparty didnt get shut down , which almost happened , but we paid off the proper people so we could keep the party going for the kids that actually support..
Anyhow sorry you had a bad time and youir friend left.. Guess we cant please everyone..
Ohh wellz..

jUnKo MiZunO
Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:44 PM
why all the hating on clubs ? ( not only in this topic )

they arnt that bad .. its just another place to go and enjoy music

there is nothing wrong with clubs.

its gay to compare them to "raves" or bar weeklys though

why is it gay to compare a club to a rave or a bar or something like that ?

what am i going to compare a club to .. umm golfing or maybe a swimming pool ?

lol just playin

nooo i didnt say YOU were doing the comparing

i think u miss took me. i ment that in general

plus i dont think a local rave or weekly sometimes can compare to the ULTRA dope sound system and lights of clubs.. remeber though i dont have anything against clubs.
cept 13 dollars drinks =\
ps. good pics

cammyjams
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 12:11 AM
well boys and girls, welcome to the future.

Age of Aquarius had a good vibe, awesome talent (for the most part), went strong until 5am, and most importantly, had the real music. Ron D Core dropped the sickest set I've ever heard in Nevada (He will return in the future to tap that ass again... this time with TERRORCORE). Much thanks to all that attendend, both locals as well as those who made the trek from Arizona and California.

Ron Ignacio Enterprises, the main investor of this event, is capable of pursuing further interests. The hardcore las vegas team is also primed and ready to rock. You have seen the beginning, grassroots as it may be, of the future. Back to the Underground.

To chime in on the whole rave vs. club thing, I have nothing against clubs, as a matter of fact, I very often enjoy clubs, and have produced clubs, but raves and clubs are two very very different beings. Go to clubs, have a good time at clubs, just do not confuse a club (whether it be all ages or 21+) with a rave.

I'm not one to unneccessarily bash music styles I which aren't my favorites. Foo-foo type trance with 3 minute hollywood breaks, cheesey house with overt build-ups, and anything else which you could probably hear on the radio or in the gym is quite alright- in its own place- the club. A rave is a place to get what you cant get in a more mainstream setting. If you see a grey line, you are thinking of a club; there is no grey line. Thus, we are calling out all the real ravers for future events.

Hardcore Las Vegas takes flight this spring, with preliminary plans already underway

100% underground vibe
100% rave underground music
0% bullshit
CHEAP ENTRY.

low-pro dirty ass stinky smelly locations.

hardcore techno
gabberhouse
hard techno
acid techno
banging techno
oldschool techno and early rave
ambient trance
(genuine) hard trance
goa/psy trance

basically, if its tolerable by a middle-aged midwest tourist who wants to put on a shiny shirt and "go out drinking and dancing tonight", you won't find it here.

stay tuned.


Ooooh I like this post! I wanna play too! Hurt those fuckers! Make 'em pay in decibles muthafuggas! Bangin it.

cammyjams
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 12:13 AM
I wasnt hating perse. I just brought up my points of not liking the party.

I have NEVER once left a party for a club, and not ONCE left before midnight, before last night. For those that had a good time at the party....fucking awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed it, I personally didnt.
I didnt like seeing the promoter put himself as a headliner, I didnt like the DJ booth, I didnt like not being able to go outside, I didnt like the boom box system in the 2nd room. And I dont understand how presales can sell out and end up having such a small turnout.

I do support my scene. I paid a lot of money for a party I didnt want to go to so Rob would at least make dues for what he paid for the party.

Flame on.

How do you figure 10:15 till 11:15 is a headline slot ? John opened for Ron which was the headliner , then after him foolowed K-thought..
And as far as your comment bout trainwrecking.. Funny that l;ike 50 kids came up and gave me props when i got off the decks.. And none of them even knew i was involved in the party at all...
Granted yes a few of my mixes were a lil rough going from trance to nrg and then back to trance but there were no wrecks.. Just 2 diferent basslines coming in together..
Regardless im sorry you had a bad time.. You are one of a few trhat said that...
As for presales we sold out in california even before we released Vegas tickets so they were very limited..
Not being able to go outside was the venue , not us.. They made it that way so that the oparty didnt get shut down , which almost happened , but we paid off the proper people so we could keep the party going for the kids that actually support..
Anyhow sorry you had a bad time and youir friend left.. Guess we cant please everyone..
Ohh wellz..

I'm sure what Rob forgot to add is "though we WILL DEFINATELY be producing a venue at Dark Skies that will rawck your asses"
\:D/

Seraph
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 12:16 AM
why all the hating on clubs ? ( not only in this topic )

they arnt that bad .. its just another place to go and enjoy music

there is nothing wrong with clubs.

its gay to compare them to "raves" or bar weeklys though

why is it gay to compare a club to a rave or a bar or something like that ?

what am i going to compare a club to .. umm golfing or maybe a swimming pool ?

lol just playin

nooo i didnt say YOU were doing the comparing

i think u miss took me. i ment that in general

plus i dont think a local rave or weekly sometimes can compare to the ULTRA dope sound system and lights of clubs.. remeber though i dont have anything against clubs.
cept 13 dollars drinks =\
ps. good pics


haha ok i get ya now ... ( im stupid )

yeah $7-$13 drinks and all the ho bag sluts that go to clubs suck the most but i still like some clubs

my pics suck .. but thanks anyways =]

ok im done with the quoting shit .. good night

Kevy Kev
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:03 AM
had the real music

What exactly is real music? I'm guessing it's not house......can't be speed garage or trance, for sure can't be dnb or jungle so it must be.......what? Hardcore?

Although you didn't say it I think that your comment was about GIITH and that's fucked up.

*TOXIC*
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:14 AM
had the real music

What exactly is real music? I'm guessing it's not house......can't be speed garage or trance, for sure can't be dnb or jungle so it must be.......what? Hardcore?

Although you didn't say it I think that your comment was about GIITH and that's fucked up.

are you mad because he said FOO FOO TRANCE!!!!????

djsin
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:56 AM
after reading all this talk, contructive critism and clownin lol, im here to support the scene as much as i can and i back white ape up to the end lol. but one thing is very clear to me. the scene needs a new venue. once we get a new venue, i think a lot more ppl will b a lot more happier and comfortable at a new/better venue. the forts good.................well not really lol, but for it to b all that we've got, its kinda good lol. but the bottom line is, we need to find a better venue. so i propose that eveyone who goes to this site.......whenever ur drivin around doin whatever, just look around and c if u c a place thats looks like...........well where u think that that would b a good place to throw a party. if we want a really good strong scene here, we're gonna have to work together.......man i sound like a pansey (did i spell that right) lol. at least thats what i think. P.L.U.R!!!











ok, ill shut up now

Kevy Kev
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 05:17 AM
had the real music

What exactly is real music? I'm guessing it's not house......can't be speed garage or trance, for sure can't be dnb or jungle so it must be.......what? Hardcore?

Although you didn't say it I think that your comment was about GIITH and that's fucked up.

are you mad because he said FOO FOO TRANCE!!!!????

Not at all. Everyone has their own opinion and we should all respect that. Although I would like to know what DJs spin FOO FOO Trance with these hollywood breakdowns. I sure haven't seen any of them at parties here in Vegas.

Captain Cock Rocket
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 05:19 AM
i know how presales can sell out and the turnout be shit. u only sell 10 presales and then lie about the actual amount sold. or come up with some bogus story.

-tripe

Discoboomer
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 09:35 AM
I'm not one to unneccessarily bash music styles I which aren't my favorites. Foo-foo type trance with 3 minute hollywood breaks, cheesey house with overt build-ups, and anything else which you could probably hear on the radio or in the gym is quite alright- in its own place- the club. A rave is a place to get what you cant get in a more mainstream setting. If you see a grey line, you are thinking of a club; there is no grey line. Thus, we are calling out all the real ravers for future events.



i'd like to stay outta this thread cause I wasn't there, but I did dl a set from there and I have heard 75% of the songs played in a club. Its great to throw local parties and to have that outlet for some local talent, plus have a thing to do when nothign else is going on.....but ya shouldn't really try to be more 'underground' than you think.


The on;y main differences I see between raves here and clubs is the age of the people and the number of djs. Other than that its pretty much the same thing. At raves you get 5 or 6 djs trying to cram their favorite peak hour jams into 50 minutes, at clubs a single dj can spin for 2 hours or more and build a great set.


what am I getting at? I have no clue, I thought I had something when I staretd this, but I have digressed. bah.


GL with the next one.

Jayrod
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 01:05 PM
I wish everyone would just stop talkin shit bout how they are so underground or how the party sucked or about how many people were on drugs. Your all retarded. You all are going to ruin the small scene we have. Cops come back to this site and your drug posts will not help out promoters in the future trying to regulate on these things. All you peeps talkin shit bout any party make the few who come back to this site who are semi interested in going to a party but are lookin for good feedback to lead their decision to go to the next one ruin it for them. Constructive criticism is great but fuck I'd rather hear from people word of mouth bout how a party wasnt good compared to on these boards so please try and keep it plain and simple. Also trying to compare who had the better VIBE or what crew is better is a crock of shit. Every promoter throws a party differently and has different components invovled in it so just let them throw parties and if u dont like them well then dont go to them but dont try and persaude others to not go to them by posting shit talk on these boards bout them.

tenno
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 01:32 PM
1) it's spelled touche'

2) would it really hurt some of you to maybe just learn to COPY. AND. FUCKING. PASTE?! stop mass quoting everything, it' makes it all confusing for people with hangovers. just grab the relevant subject matter. damn.

3) glad people had fun, i heard it sucked also but that could have been a preliminary association.

cammyjams
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 01:35 PM
I wish everyone would just stop talkin shit bout how they are so underground or how the party sucked or about how many people were on drugs. Your all retarded. You all are going to ruin the small scene we have. Cops come back to this site and your drug posts will not help out promoters in the future trying to regulate on these things. All you peeps talkin shit bout any party make the few who come back to this site who are semi interested in going to a party but are lookin for good feedback to lead their decision to go to the next one ruin it for them. Constructive criticism is great but fuck I'd rather hear from people word of mouth bout how a party wasnt good compared to on these boards so please try and keep it plain and simple. Also trying to compare who had the better VIBE or what crew is better is a crock of shit. Every promoter throws a party differently and has different components invovled in it so just let them throw parties and if u dont like them well then dont go to them but dont try and persaude others to not go to them by posting shit talk on these boards bout them.

THAT RIGHT THERE is the most intelligent and well versed post I have seen on this board this month.

Guys! Think before you post please, these mesages are archived like, FOR EVER, so that any LEO can go back and see what was said and by whom. Why hand it to the man on a silver platter? Why make it easy to bust you/us? And don't think that having a board name like "mybickisbiggerthanyourswoofwoofwoof" will prevent them from knocking on your door and taking you (and your computer) to jail.

We don't know where this town is going to be in 6 months, some of these promoters may not even exist then, others still (might) be throwing the best parties outside of Creamfields and turning a profit. Ever stop to think that your flames are going to look pretty fucking stupid when one of these promoters actually makes money at this and you're lookin' for a slot/some help/a break? And there's that flame, just sittin' back there.

The hatred we all see posted on this board.............I mean, godddamn dudes, come on. It's way fucked up.

Good job SBJ

thewhiteape
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 03:06 PM
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/theodore_long/images/teddy_long.jpg
Hold up there, playa.

No dissin on my behalf...

Not all trance is FOO FOO TRANCE! And even FOO FOO TRANCE still beats the shit of THE MUTUAL ARCH ENEMY OF US ALL... RADIO RAP! Meant no disrespect to anyone. I'm just saying everything has its own place. If it has a three minute break and and a princess singing about love, cinnamon, and pink ponies, keep it in a club. And yes, I've heard that stuff at "raves" in Las Vegas.

As for the real music... yes the real, hard, rave underground music. I love hardcore to death, but of course hardcore isn't the only real music... look at the other styles I promised. The clubby stuff you heard and recorded from AOA, I wasn't responsible for. My apologies good sir! I know we couldn't record Ron's acid set, but see if anyone got any of Rated-R (dirty techno), or the hardcore djs.

Again, I'm not dissin the softer stuff... everything has its own place. There's probably pictures floating around of my big drunk ass rockin out to Chris Lawrence at ICE, but thats a set that belonged at a club...

And no, no disrespect at all to GIITH, instead, BIG BIG PROPS to the party. Thats the kind of thing I was involved with for bussiness and profit in L.A. It was a very very well executed event, I take my hat off to them.

In fact, I'm still thinking about doing a $30-40,000 overhead 5+ area all-age club-style event with MONSTER NAMES for you all. And there would even be FOO FOO TRANCE there, because someting on such huge a scale needs to pull a bigger, mainstream crowd. Hell sice I'm going that far, I would probably have to bring in a few $10,000 rappers in one of the areas to pull more heads as well.


In the meantime though, more for personal reward and satisfaction than profit, we're going to take things in a different direction.


Everything is Fung-Shuay (sp?), Yin-Yang.... Balance.

I just meant that there's a place for everything.



In the meantime, get ready for some down and dirty, driving to the venue with the doors locked, try not to step on rats while you're dancing, where's my beanie and whistle, oh shit is that the cops, speaker diving, "Oh my God, Susy, I'm totally too good to go there", minimal visuals, 5-10$ entry, low-pro, real FOCKIN RAVE PARTIES.

thewhiteape
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 03:41 PM
go look at this thread in the music forum, it should clear a lot of stuff up and make a lot of sense to all of you who have only been around for a few years. Hope it helps!

http://www.eternalbeats.net/portal/viewtopic.php?t=12636

Kevy Kev
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:16 PM
Again, I'm not dissin the softer stuff... everything has its own place. There's probably pictures floating around of my big drunk ass rockin out to Chris Lawrence at ICE, but thats a set that belonged at a club...

If you think that Christopher Lawrence plays Foo Foo Trance, you're drunk. He used to play progressive, but now he plays harder shit (Tidy Traxx, Nucleus, etc...)

thewhiteape
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:27 PM
no you're right... It was Good stuff... good enough for me to rock out to (with a couple of Steel Reserves in the belly), and pay to get in and literally run into the trance room; and I would pay again... but then again, that was back when I thought there was no scene at all here and had been forced to either deal with radio rap at clubs or drive all the way to L.A. to hear anything decent.

But give me this, dude...

It is still "club" music

There were some tracks in there that had you trance junkies fluttering your hands in the air for several minutes at a time while there was absolutely no bassline at all. ------> FOO FOO!

\:D/ \:D/ \:D/

tenno
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:39 PM
for the record, none of these parties have been in any way: feng-shui, yin-yang or zen. That would require quite the overhaul of most peoples sense of direction, design and taste.

hahahahahahahahah

kINEkT
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:40 PM
i love all the underground styles and would love to see it more at parties.. i was always a firm supporter of the slammin funky house, hard trance/techno, d'n'b, and of course some hardcore. a rave to me needs energy and all the cookie cutter trance and club house isnt doing it for me!

thewhiteape I look forward to some raw n dirty beats.. respect

Kevy Kev
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:44 PM
Well then all trance is foo foo then for having a breakdown. :?

I love trance more than anything and this conversation is getting me pissed.

Good luck with everything.

thewhiteape
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 04:49 PM
no don't get pissed dude... its all good. *offers handshake* I'm trying to keep this laid-back/ casual. Go check out that ishkur site, he puts a lot of stuff into perspective...

and I even think he gets to harsh on the modern trance.

but no, not all trance has that blatant eternal super-long breakdown. Just a lot of the new "lets make money" trance.

thewhiteape
Mon Feb 21, 2005, 05:07 PM
Believe me, I know what its like to have morons who know nothing about history to talk shit about my favorite style of music... definately not doing that...

And I'm even saying I LIKE FOO FOO TRANCE in certain situations. It just dosn't belong at underground parties.

And not all trance is foo foo trance....

The word's getting old now.

TNess
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 01:33 AM
yea well i like Happy Foo Foo Core

N Dizzle
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 01:49 AM
Believe me, I know what its like to have morons who know nothing about history to talk shit about my favorite style of music... definately not doing that...

And I'm even saying I LIKE FOO FOO TRANCE in certain situations. It just dosn't belong at underground parties.

And not all trance is foo foo trance....

The word's getting old now.

If it's not underground it sucks right? haha.

thewhiteape
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 03:16 AM
no, not neccessarily...

Its just kinda like ordering a hamburger at a mexican restaruant. Just odd.

Cyrus
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 07:49 AM
no, not neccessarily...

Its just kinda like ordering a hamburger at a mexican restaruant. Just odd.

But those double del cheese burgers are delicious...

N Dizzle
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 08:20 AM
But those double del cheese burgers are delicious...


You're insane. Those are horrid!

Cyrus
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 08:22 AM
You've never tasted them when they open, when they are actually fresh! yar har har

sleepee
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 08:26 AM
I didn't know Del Taco closed..since they are 24/7 and all and since you referred to them as

DOUBLE DEL CHEESEBURGERS

So how could you have a fresh one when it opens, when they don't close? #-o

Cyrus
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 10:09 AM
hm.. well they actually do close around 2-5, and then another shift comes in or something. Getting any thing at 6 in the morning after you wake up is always good

StrawbrryStitchz
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 10:27 AM
i heard it blew. from a reliable source... who ended up leaving to go ice because it sucked so bad. *thats sad right there*

very glad i didnt waste any money on it!


awol is still the best. <3

sorry for being mean... i guess i wasnt thinking about how much effort people put into these parties. i didnt mean AWOL IS THE BEST, ONLY CREW I COULD SUPPORT! ive just always had a good time at their parties... there are plenty of other production companies that can throw good parties too. so yea... sorry for being bitchy y'all. ron d core woulda been sick... i havent seen him in a few years. well yea.. <3

Kthought
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 11:04 AM
Since we got on the topic of Trance...

Nothing against rob, he got mad love for his set and thats all that matters.


However...
I Myself, am a Trance Addict. but I appreciate all EDM and know the place and time for all, adapted to my taste and opinion, of course.
During my set, I Played the following...

(Not meant to sound conceited)

New, Very Good, Tasteful Tracks, Some (Released) under a month old, Some Deleted rare copies that i paid copius amounsts of money for. I Also felt i mixed well for the Setup Given, there were severe level problems in the mixer, and the needles and cartridges were all mixed and matched. Ron D Core was smart and brought his own needles, and sounded alot better.

Rob Played:

Old, Decent but Played Out, Cheezy, FOO FOO Trance. Mixed Poorly. (sorry Rob, I Still love you, but its the truth)

Just Doesnt Seem Fair.

I feel violated.
Very Violated.
Darude - Sandtorm ruled the party.

Solid Globe - Kalahari was Background Music.

W T F.

Whatever though. I Will continue to drop the new, Tasteful trance which i research, program and feel are floorfillers. but if Darude Sandstorm reigns supreme, maybe I should spin hip hop.

If I spun hip hop at a peak hour slot at a hip hop party and i played Snoop Doggy Dog - Doggystyle...

Some niggas would get shot.

I guess nobody cares as much as me. It'll get me somewhere someday. maybe just not the las vegas underground.

Thanks for the Opportunity HippieGroove, Ron Ignacio, and thanks to anyone who was there.

N Dizzle
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 11:23 AM
Some niggas would get shot.



Haha I love you Mark. (Btw listened to your CD on the drive home and was impressed, props)

hippiekid
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 02:37 PM
And i still havent gotten a cd from u mark.. WTF ?
And yeah like i said in an earlier post some of the mixes were a bit rough , and i know this.. I should have pulled some better selection , but all and all the crowd gave props , yes it was alot of old tracks , but hey.. I dont ereally spin trance enough to buy new tracks.. Just not my thing much anymore..
Also i dint feel that the slower prog was appropriate for a rave... That shit needds to be keptr in the clubs...Or at weekly spots ( which i own alot of new tracks ) Now what u played is definetly good trance in my opinion...Up to date and fresh....Perfect for a rave...
And Kev , i want my set , just sop i can hear how it was...

Kthought
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 07:59 PM
Some niggas would get shot.



Haha I love you Mark. (Btw listened to your CD on the drive home and was impressed, props)

Thank you, Alot. Your support and contribution means alot...

stasis-AA
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 08:48 PM
hahah i love kthoughts comments, funny shit, its the exact same way with dnb out here. when i spun at storm i tried an experiment....i played an entire set of my usual 0-day upfront dirty shit, crowd response was alrite, nothin to scream about. but at the very end i dropped the bounciest record in the world, that i had bought the week before only because it was so cheesy i just had to test it out on a vegas crowd. lo and behold everybody fuckin went nuts. people came in from the other room, the next dj asked me what it was, etc. moral of the story is ya just cant win.

a lot of people say a great dj plays for the crowd, not for himself but eh i think thats too black and white. while its awesome to have a crowd go off to every tune you drop, i still say its better to get props from one geek ass internet nerd who hardcore follows the music than a dancefloor full of musical retards. this is probably why i still spin at bars ; )

as for the party, i didnt really stay long enough to make specific comments. just wasnt feeling it much. one thing i thought was crazy...who knew a special event at a club could steal a good part of the draw from an underground event? time to start planning raves around the ice calendar

TNess
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 10:03 PM
time to start planning raves around the ice calendar

haha rather u ment that sarcasticly or not, its the truth. ICE is bringin in some major good talent. You promoters really should check out the ice dates before bookin a party. Im all for supporting the scene, but im also about the music. Where i feel the better music is that will be where I head. Im not the only one who thinks that way either. Unless its something Special like Devils Knight. I missed my favorite dj Ferry Corsten to go to the rave.

technoaddict
Tue Feb 22, 2005, 11:41 PM
Lookin forward to seein Fatboy Slim.

Kevy Kev
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 12:35 AM
aToo drunk to make a goor cokmment bbut stll I haqv ea point nmpon3ethelkess.

Tomorrow will come a mnew upeate and a new perwspective.

Joshua Adam
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 12:56 AM
a lot of people say a great dj plays for the crowd, not for himself but eh i think thats too black and white. while its awesome to have a crowd go off to every tune you drop, i still say its better to get props from one geek ass internet nerd who hardcore follows the music than a dancefloor full of musical retards. this is probably why i still spin at bars ; )


its not black and white if a dj has his ego in check. unless you are an a or b list dj (read: top 100 rated) people are there to hear music that makes them dance, not what you think its the best track around at the moment. until your an experience veteran dj with some stature, a lot more often than not, that track you think its a floorfiller and what the crowd says don't often match up.

i think mark failed to recognize that with his 'solid globe - kalahari' comment. before you even get behind the decks you need to get a feel for the type of venue you are in and observe the people on the floor and whats gettng them reacting to that. unless your name is tiesto or oakenfold (keeping it trance related), you're not gonna just step up on the decks and blow people away with YOUR sound, you have to play what the people want to hear. i think deck presence is what you were getting at with your black and white comment joe... thats the defining characteristic.

it took me playing many a friday and saturday nights at curve in the aladdin with faarsheed to realize this concept. i'd throw on a promo one of our distributors from intelligence records slipped in the box that i thought was absolutely sick and get hardly any crowd reaction. then i'd throw on some older track i thought was so-so that was just long enough to give me time to go to the bathroom and back, and then return to find a full dance floor of people gettin their groove on.


oh, and always bring your own needles, n00b :op

stasis-AA
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 03:27 AM
theres definitely two sides to it. a dj that systematically plays what people want to hear, when they want to hear it is a jukebox, and nothing more. it takes no skill to buy a handful of chart topping crowd pleasers, beatmatch and drop them in succession no matter what timeslot you have. djs like this are a dime a dozen. they keep the party going, get endless props on their badass sets, whatever. but the next day the music isnt an aspect of the night anyone even remembers. imo the talent lies in getting people to open up, expand their minds and bob their heads to something they thought they hated on the ride to the party. giving people what they want to hear is easy...convincing them they want to hear something new, without alienating them, is a neverending challenge. key is to live in the grey area.

another quote from the dj bible: your style on the decks has everything to do with your motivation, and it will be apparent.

N Dizzle
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 04:39 AM
aToo drunk to make a goor cokmment bbut stll I haqv ea point nmpon3ethelkess.

Tomorrow will come a mnew upeate and a new perwspective.

I approve.

Kthought
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 10:13 AM
Joe, Josh; you guys got great perspectives on this.

Josh, youre right, i have little experience compared to you, and Joe also... and experience is so extremely important.

the track i mentioned was purely metaphoric. Although i love that track, i knew it would create a mild reaction due to the fact that: it has a very acid (sawtooth) based attitude, and is very techy. wellp... I do believe that 30 minutes prior, Ron D Core had slammed 2 hours of Hard, Acid, (sawtooth) Techno into the corwds head, and literally wore the crowd out. I was left with an empty, haggard dancefloor. I hate to digress, but i feel i programmed well. i Opened with something the crowd hadnt heard in 4 hours... A melody. and went from there, and the dancefloor filled again.

I was only comparing my track selection to robs and well... until i do gain that deck presence i will keep playing Traffic and Right of Way. But then again, Joe, i will never be the jukebox of which you speak of.

Experience is what I need.
so...

Book Me.

kINEkT
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 10:21 AM
much , much love for promotional efforts rob, you go much farther than 99.9% of the vegas crowd has gone in support.. but bro your dj skills are pretty sloppy. I'll post up the mp3 set of age of aquarius if people are interested in rating it.

some people just aren't ment to be a dj it's nothing to be ashamed about.. just keept it as a hobby playing in your living room if you cant produce a flawless mix

RaveCrusader
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 11:42 AM
I have known Rob (hippiekid) for several years now. I have seen his parties turn out really well and crash and burn in that time. I will not be critical of him here, I think that there has been enough of that already. I appreciate what Rob tries to do and I will show him respect for his efforts.

About what Mark, Joe and Josh had to say about things.

I have been a DJ for a while now. I have played desert parties from off the back of a pickup truck in Arizona in the rain, House Parties and shit-hole warehouses in New Mexico and even the main area at an AWOL party here in Vegas. I am not trying to boast, just telling the truth. I will make no claim that my skills or experience surpass any other DJ in Vegas. DJ skills become a bit subjective after you get past the fundamentals of beat-matching and output levels.

I believe that there is a 3rd variable that is just as important when it comes to being booked as a DJ. Promotion or more directly... marketing. Josh and I have discussed this on numerous occasions. How you market yourself is essential to your success as a DJ. The tracks you play and the way that you put together a set is important, but I have seen excellent DJs go virtually unknown because they did not have an effective way to market themselves. To market themselves some people have to throw parties, help feed a little hype or even boast of there own skills and ego every now and then. I do none of those, but I am not very effective at marketing myself.

It is my ineffective marketing that holds me back. I have experience, a great deal of it in fact but that really does not seem to matter in my case. I have seen DJs that have far less experience then I get booked before me. That is just the way that things are in the fickle world of DJ entertainment. I am not good at annoying or schmoozing promoters until they book me. That is just not the way that I operate. Usually when I play it is because I am asked to play since I really don’t like to tell anyone they should book me. I have no real name recognition since I am not out telling everyone how they should listen to me over and over again. I just put out music and let people decide for themselves. I am willing to bet about 90% of the people here have heard me play at least once in the last 5 years. Most people probably did not even see when I turned the booth monitors to the crowd at Jingle Beats because the cops made me turn the main down. Doesn’t really matter, I don’t do this for people to love me. My name is plain and even if they did know it they would likely not be able to associate it with “RaveCrusader” anyway.

Mark, I understand your frustration and desire to be booked. I understand your desire to be recognized for your love of music and what you play. It is not unlike many of us around here. But it’s all about what you want out of it, as a DJ. There are those around here that remind me why I really keep trying after all these years. When I was at Storm in January I was waiting in the bathroom for the pisser and a guy came up and told me that he thought that a set I had done a month before was awesome. He did not know my name, he just remembered my face. That was one of the coolest things that could happen in my opinion. I am not here to be famous or to push to get booked. I am here for music.

Josh and Joe are both right. It just all depends on what you want out of being a DJ. Do you want to play at a club, do you want to be known or do you just play to have a good time. We all want to be booked and play out. Just don’t get annoyed when people don’t remember you or wont book when and where you want to play. Just because people may not appreciate music the same way that I do does not make the music any less important to them and I would not call them names. I used to get annoyed and it took the fun right out of playing at parties.

Shakespeare
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 01:52 PM
I have known Rob (hippiekid) for several years now. I have seen his parties turn out really well and crash and burn in that time. I will not be critical of him here, I think that there has been enough of that already. I appreciate what Rob tries to do and I will show him respect for his efforts.

Werd.

I've known rob pretty much my entire time in the raving culture. I have helped out with most of his parties thrown here in the past 5 years, and I have to say that I have not seen anyone match his dedication to bringing the beats to the Vegas Scene. In the darkest times of this scene, I've seen Rob pull together awesome desert parties just to give kids something to do on a Saturday night.

I won't say that he's a great Dj, but I will say that I was absolutely amazed by what I heard of his set at AoA. For those of you who just have to hate on his skills, Just think of it this way: Sure you have to deal with Rob spinning at every party he throws, But look at the talent he brings out! I would gladly listen to Rob Trainwreck 15 mixes in a row, as long as he keeps bringing out talent like Ron D. Core.

Kthought
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 03:04 PM
oh, and always bring your own needles, n00b :op



What do you know about needles, Joshua "Compact Disc" Adam.

=;

The kind of needles you use blow up death stars n shit.

...

yeah but when i saw Ron pulling off the needles he was using i knew i was doomed.

stasis-AA
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 03:16 PM
The kind of needles you use blow up death stars n shit.


hahahah

Joshua Adam
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 03:29 PM
oh, and always bring your own needles, n00b :op



What do you know about needles, Joshua "Compact Disc" Adam.




well, for the obvious answer... enough to know you should bring your own needles.

that and here's a picture from the last club gig i played....

[600:578]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/jprogressivedj/holyshit.jpg

hippiekid
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 03:40 PM
I have known Rob (hippiekid) for several years now. I have seen his parties turn out really well and crash and burn in that time. I will not be critical of him here, I think that there has been enough of that already. I appreciate what Rob tries to do and I will show him respect for his efforts.

Werd.

I've known rob pretty much my entire time in the raving culture. I have helped out with most of his parties thrown here in the past 5 years, and I have to say that I have not seen anyone match his dedication to bringing the beats to the Vegas Scene. In the darkest times of this scene, I've seen Rob pull together awesome desert parties just to give kids something to do on a Saturday night.

I won't say that he's a great Dj, but I will say that I was absolutely amazed by what I heard of his set at AoA. For those of you who just have to hate on his skills, Just think of it this way: Sure you have to deal with Rob spinning at every party he throws, But look at the talent he brings out! I would gladly listen to Rob Trainwreck 15 mixes in a row, as long as he keeps bringing out talent like Ron D. Core.

I will bew the first to admit that im not a great dj , and by all means im not trying to claim fame whatsoever.. And in all honesty I know my set could have been alot better.. I actually listened to it after kevin sent it over to me, and well there was 1 trainwreck , for which i did catch quikly in the mix , but what im hearing the most in my set was poor programming.. The Beatmatching was there , just the transitions could have been alot better...
I know i can mix at times very well , and im sure any of my closest friends and family will be the first to account for that , as they come to my house and hear me mix.. But at the same time i have moments where i totaly suk , and where im soso.. In my opinion my set at Age was a soso set.. Great track selection in my opinion for what i felt at the time with the crowd reaction... ( I almost cleared the other room ) But again it could have been better in my mixing abilities as far as timing and transitions went..
For thiose that know me , they know what all i had going on in my life 2 weeks before the party ( for which i almost canceled it ) so the point im making is i hadnet even touched the decks in like 3 weeks , let alone pull records for the party in an order of tracks i know well... Goes to show not to mix 135 bpm witrh 150 bpm.. Ie .. Prog trance with NRG with nu skoll breaks which is at around 142 bpm...
What i intend to do is mix the entire set i did @ home when i have some free time on my hands and give it to kevin to post up...
Will also have a break mix coming out soon , which is really waht i feel , along with the Hard ass Shit.....

Discoboomer
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 08:17 PM
ya don't have to explain man, just kick ass next time. I know about every time I play out I learn something new, so just wow em next time ;)

Shakespeare
Wed Feb 23, 2005, 10:33 PM
Rob, You know this was a kick ass party, and pretty much every party you throw kicks ass, or has the potential to... Think about how awesome your parties would be if you focused more energy into the production, and less into your set, All the haters here would have to bite their tongues. Food for thought...

thewhiteape
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 03:13 AM
I kept telling Rob that me and him should just get a pair of microphones and sing that hour long duet we've done a hundred times in the lounge at Palace Station during amatuer hour, but.... noooooooo.

After all, we did both make it to the second round of American Idol when tryouts were here in Vegas. I should still be on there, too. Damn that punkass prick Simon, I can outsing Latranda and Tobie any day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!

djsin
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 02:11 PM
I kept telling Rob that me and him should just get a pair of microphones and sing that hour long duet we've done a hundred times in the lounge at Palace Station during amatuer hour, but.... noooooooo.

After all, we did both make it to the second round of American Idol when tryouts were here in Vegas. I should still be on there, too. Damn that punkass prick Simon, I can outsing Latranda and Tobie any day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!

damn, idk weather to laugh or cry at that bro lol

anyway..........damn we're still talking on this subject!?!? we need to start talkin about the next party or start talkin about a house party!! i think i can vouch for everyone when i say that i would like something to go on every weekend weather it b a house party or a rave. i know that there is something always goin on at ICE, but i just dont like to go there. for me its more the crowd and vibe that i get (course the water and beer prices r about the same lol) i would like to go to a rave/party with some ppl that i know and some ppl that i dont know and meet, rather to a club where u have girls dressed in all skimpy ass clothes where they show like 80% of their body (trust i like that to, i would just like to c that on a raver girl than a club girl hehe) to which the only thing that that girl is after is the guys wallet, which the guy looks like a..........idk, a preppy (is that how u spell it lol) *shivers* sorry, thats just my impresion of a club scene to a rave scene, but then again not all clubs r the same either, so i really shouldnt judge. i will say that ICE has a nice set up and all, i just dont like vibe or ppl i guess u can say. BUT.........like everyone else has been saying.....ya it also depends on who is spinning, if DJ IRENE or any of my fav. dj's were gonna b spinning that night at any club and not a rave, u betcha i would go down to c them










ok, ill shut up now

Kevy Kev
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 06:30 PM
aToo drunk to make a goor cokmment bbut stll I haqv ea point nmpon3ethelkess.

Tomorrow will come a mnew upeate and a new perwspective.

Damn I drink too much. #-o

Jordan Stevens
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 06:35 PM
aToo drunk to make a goor cokmment bbut stll I haqv ea point nmpon3ethelkess.

Tomorrow will come a mnew upeate and a new perwspective.

Damn I drink too much. #-o
NUB

hippiekid
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 07:28 PM
I have known Rob (hippiekid) for several years now. I have seen his parties turn out really well and crash and burn in that time. I will not be critical of him here, I think that there has been enough of that already. I appreciate what Rob tries to do and I will show him respect for his efforts.

Werd.

I won't say that he's a great Dj, but I will say that I was absolutely amazed by what I heard of his set at AoA. For those of you who just have to hate on his skills, Just think of it this way: Sure you have to deal with Rob spinning at every party he throws, But look at the talent he brings out! I would gladly listen to Rob Trainwreck 15 mixes in a row, as long as he keeps bringing out talent like Ron D. Core.

Hey now shakes.. I would necver trainwreck 15 mixes in a row.. But yeah i see your point... You know daym well i can mix when i feel it , and sometimes i just suk.. But 15 in a row,, thats so WRONG... You know how people mite take that comment... I know u wont stick up for me on the lines of my mixing cause its an ego thing but daym...15 in a row.... Ok just venting...
What can i say.. I guess i should have given my set up with all that happened to me in the last 3 weeks , cause i had so much on my mind , then the party.... But i Was ready to Rawk the Crowd.....And ity appears i did in some eyes , and in others my mixing was sloppy.. and io will be the first to admit.. Yrs ago i would not have said that...
ANYHOW....
Gonna rawk it next time around , be it here or out of town...

Shakespeare
Thu Feb 24, 2005, 09:04 PM
I know you wouldn't wreck 15 in a row, I was exxagerating to make a point! Chill bro.