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perpetualcacoph
Sun Jun 8, 2008, 12:16 PM
So, right now I have been using Reason 4 for a while and I know how to do just about everything with it. I am getting a new computer soon (a mac) and I'm looking for a good program to rewire with so that I'll be able to take advantage of the power of both programs. I'm looking at Logic Studio right now (money isn't an issue for this) and it seems like the way to go, but I wanted to know what others thought. I've tried Ableton, but never really put too much time in to learn it very well. In case it matters I make mostly Hardcore/Hardstyle.

Kevy Kev
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 02:54 AM
Download demos, see what you like.

I use cubase sx3 now, switching over to logic here in a month or so. Cubase I find very user friendly, if price is no option go with Logic though. Seems to be the standard.

RT_Random
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 04:33 AM
is Logic easy to learn? i'm kinda new to this but i want to get in the remixing and producing. is it to of the line or something?

Kevy Kev
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 10:07 AM
Logic has a steep learning curve apparently but I don't see it being impossible to learn.

At first I thought cubase was tough but with the help of a book and youtube I figured out pretty much all I needed to know.

You need a decent computer for producing, the more ram the better.

JPaul
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 01:40 PM
Logic and or Ableton. Its up to you, Ableton is a little more user friendly, I'ld say. It what i use and with some reading and videos its really easy to pick up on.

perpetualcacoph
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 03:01 PM
Alright, thank you. I guess I will go with Logic. I normally pick up on things pretty fast so the learning curve shouldn't be too bad and it seems like the more powerful program. Thank you.

kINEkT
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 08:30 PM
Logic & Pro tools are used almost exclusively in the commercial music industry thus if you work with any professionals chances are you will collaborate using one of these digital audio sequencers.

Cubase Sx is probably half of the electronic dance music industry
with the other half being a combination of all the rest and ableton has obviously gobbled up a large chunk of that in recent years. ive been learning ableton because I love the modular view to the program. its easier to work with audio, tweak, and process fx than any other program i think.

Kevy Kev
Mon Jun 9, 2008, 11:39 PM
Pro Tools I think would be an overkill for EDM production but I've never messed with it.

Logic just looks sexy and it can do everything. Get some hardware maybe a virus or a nord lead.

I have on my wishlist a andromeda, but only if I hit the lottery or run into $2k+ dollars. I think once the computer is done I'm going to get a used virus TI, the rack version.

Jaye..Ruue
Tue Jun 10, 2008, 09:56 AM
LOGIC FO SHO!!! Thats what you want!

JPaul
Tue Jun 10, 2008, 01:34 PM
Logic & Pro tools are used almost exclusively in the commercial music industry thus if you work with any professionals chances are you will collaborate using one of these digital audio sequencers.

Cubase Sx is probably half of the electronic dance music industry
with the other half being a combination of all the rest and ableton has obviously gobbled up a large chunk of that in recent years. ive been learning ableton because I love the modular view to the program. its easier to work with audio, tweak, and process fx than any other program i think.

If you need any help/tips hit me up.

Ghost {LFHS}
Mon Jun 16, 2008, 01:55 AM
I also produce Hardstyle, and have recently began using Logic 8. Anyone who is considering Ableton, or anything else, don't. This program is incredible, I find it far more useful than protools, and not having to have the digidesign hardware is a plus. I really had no problem opening it up and figuring things out. As far as electronic music production, and midi sequencing, it should be a piece of cake.

If you wanna make a song really hard, throw down your hardest synth, then use the subbass editing tool in conjunction with a fat eq, I've never heard something roar so loud in the sub frequencies.

blackenedmartyr
Mon Jun 16, 2008, 04:18 PM
Isn't Logic strictly mac now since it switched from emagic? I think apple dropped the Windows versions after version 6... I may be wrong but who knows... I wouldn't buy an old version of logic because there is probably little or no support unless you're using it on a mac. Macs kick ass but a lot of people can't afford a 2k+ PC plus the cost of software.

I used Logic and Cubase and after using the two I prefer Cubase. I use SX3 but I hear 4 is good too.
Both of them are alike just like most DAW's... The biggest thing imo are the vst's, plugins, etc that you use with them.

Once upon a time there was a access virus vst but I don't think they sell it anymore. I have a library of samples taken directly from the Virus C that I never use.

Here's some links for some good VST's in case you don't know what ones are good...

http://www.native-instruments.com/ - Konakt, Massive, Battery, FM8 - You cant go wrong with these. Kontakt is one of the best samplers IMO.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Z3TA/ - awesome synth

http://www.voxengo.com/downloads/ - Some good free VST's.

Also check out http://www.vstplanet.com/ bunch of free shit.

Oh I forgot...

http://www.digital-blonde.com/

Check it out. It's not porn.

Ghost {LFHS}
Mon Jun 16, 2008, 09:20 PM
That is the one downside of Reason and Logic, neither support vst's. The new mac alternative is AU (audio units). There is pretty much one converter out at the moment that will convert the thousand+ free vst's out there and convert them into the apple alternative AU, and it costs almost 100 dollars. I'm really not willing to drop so much money for a file converter, although there are some awesome vocoders I wish I could use.

JPaul
Tue Jun 17, 2008, 06:17 PM
Ya i dont know about that, vsts = jesus. There's nothing wrong with ableton if you choose to go that route. Many awesome Producers/DJs use it! =D