When is enough just enough?

[hya]

I've been posed a a question that I'm sure most of us have thought about in some point of our lives: When you love someone, when is enough just enough? Where do you draw that imaginary line?

If I knew, even just a little speculation, that someone could and would intentionally hurt me, in any physical or emotional manner...my line is drawn. Just because I love someone doesn't mean I have to take what they give me. Because I love a person is no reason to remain involved with the person if they only intentionally bring me down. Love is not an excuse.

The same goes with friends. No matter how good my friends are to me, if I know that they have intentionally hurt me in some way, I could no longer stand the sight of the person. No matter how much I love a friend, betrayal of this trust of companionship is enough cause for it to end.

To err is human; to forgive, divine.
Shakespeare wrote that in a play, one I'm too lazy and retarded to remember right now.

I honestly believe that friends, family, and lovers can and will hurt you in some way at any given point in life. And as a friend, as a family member, as a lover, we forgive them. Like the saying goes, "Just because two people fight, that doesn't mean they don't love each other; And just because two people don't fight, it doesn't necessarily mean they do." But if the pain and strife they put you through is intentional, fuck them; they do not deserve being in your presence.

How can you determine if the hurt is intentional? You just know. There's something in the back of your mind or the pit of your heart that just knows something's up. It's called intuition, and sometimes, you just have to trust it.

I did that with several friends. I did that with my stepdad. And I've even done it to myself. The only difference is that I have to live with myself for the rest of my life. In order to live with myself, I chose to now love myself and not hurt my body, mind, or soul in anyway manner.

Love shouldn't hurt

[SpeciaLK]

I agree... Love is supposed to be the most spectacular, most beautiful experience... It's supposed to be so pure... I wonder where things go wrong with that.
I know that with pain comes experience, knowledge, and deeper insight [if you're paying attention, learning from things], but there are many other things out there to cause pain to a person... love should be that secret escape from all the agony of life daily. I guess every day you live, you expect something more. I guess things are meant to be the way they are...
Drawing lines... based on your love for someone. That all depends on what kind of love it is, right? Blind love... Many people fall victim to a blind love... You'd think you'd never develop a love for someone who mistreats you... hurts you... But that's no one's fault... I don't think you can help who you fall in love with... There'd be a lot less danger in that... lol :P

[LiNSie]

my opinion probably doesn't mean much but here it is...

first of all, if someone loves you or cares about you...they would NEVER intentionally hurt you...sometimes things happen and they may not realize what they've done...but with a little communication you'll be okay...


How can you determine if the hurt is intentional? You just know. There's something in the back of your mind or the pit of your heart that just knows something's up. It's called intuition, and sometimes, you just have to trust it.


couldn't of said it better myself...

i hope you understand what i was trying to say...

[TheNewCollective]

heh......well kiddo you sort of know the lousy situation im in right?
i just dont draw the line. not because i like it mind you, but rather, because I'd rather deal with the pain than risk losing her. Fights are 5/7 days of the week now if you go by waking accumulated hours...but sill..i dont throw her out or tell her to get a job...It sucks when you love someone that much....especially when you want them and love them, but you dont need them. Even though you don't you love them too much to give them up, so you suffer instead....
love is life
life is suffering
ergo.....
suffering is_______
fuck I dont even want to admit it, i'm an idealist, but u know what goes in the blank above and I know it true....

-fin.
hmm....that was kinda perssonal...oh what the hell...maybe the rare bits of valuble knowledge I have can help others eh?

i dunno whats been up my friend with the flower for a spirit guide, but I'll call ya, and be strong
>>>:) : hya power : wurd

youknowwho

[loky]

i try so hard to stay away from love. i can stand it but i cna help the feeling when i see others to gether. it pains me so. it wasnt so hard before. why is this so hard know. love, a lover, friends. i know i can go on with out them. to many emotions to deal with. but for all the damn emotions is on of the man reasons why i watch, tis why i am a watcher. not to many know who i am. i am so fare away from all but yet i am closer then you think. for those who know me, they understand this(that they do) i am alone in life , i shall all ways be. but i will all ways look orward watching the happyness of others. I WOULD RATHER DIE THEN LOVE AND FEEL EMOTION EVER AGAIN. :|

[angelkisses]

hmmmm..........love .........well there are good points to experiencing it but man with love there always are complication that attach itself with it ......it can be very good at times sometimes gives you that feeling of this is" why i exist to experience this kind of feeling" but then there are those times that you just wish there was no such thing .......yeah i already heard the saying that" life with out love is not living at all " love has soooooo much damn problems to come along with happiness ! but i'm not opposed with love just at this point in my life i can live gladly without it ! but it can be good i'm not saying it is all the time bad just most of the time well at least for me it is ! but back to the subject love shouldn't hurt ! it is a mutual thing it can't work out unless it is both ways not single sided! lots of people are blinded by love though like people don't know when to quit like for example my friend stays in a relationship in which her b/f hits her and basically control her i fear for her because one day she just might not be here because of him i tried reasoning with her to dump this guy because it is not right but she is soooooo blinded that she won't leave ! i would never ever let my b/f hurt me in any way mentally or physically especially ! i would leave him in a quick second no matter even if i was in love with him and all i wouldn't care ! thats taking things too far !

[Heavens Revenge]

enough is when the person intentionally hurts you.
he's/she's always got a choice in what actions he/she takes, and sayin "sorry babe, i fucked up there was no way around it" doesnt say much for what kinda messed up shit the dumb ass tried to pull.
fuck that, dont take shit from anyone >:[ cus in the end, it would be you that gets hurt over and over again by someones messed up actions.

[Heavens Revenge]

There's something in the back of your mind or the pit of your heart that just knows something's up. It's called intuition, and sometimes, you just have to trust it.


that reminds me of that ?sublime? song

"you gotta trust your instincts
and let go of regret
you gotta bet on yourself now child
cus thats your best bet."

[kINEkT]

people analyze things way too much ;/

exist, enjoy what you like, and be happy with the ones that matter. be too picky, you'll never be happy

go wit the flow ;)

[ames]

i definitely have the intuition, but do i use it towards my advantage? no. i should work on that.

[angelkisses]

that's true heaven's revenge about what you wrote about that if you let them fuck up and all then the only person gonna be hurt is the person ! what i don't get is how people can sit there taking shit like that from anyone i would never let no one get even close i have morals and i'm not going to let someone ruin it yet alone hurt me in any way ! but people get blinded by "love" just like that one song by mary j blige called "love is blind " thaT song is soooo true i couldn't agree more especially that music video wow that was really sad watching that ! and i know this happens in everyday life people dying all the time from abusive relationship ! it's a really sad thing but no one can really stop it from happening because it will happen anyways ! people need to learn to get out of a relationship before it gets to that point on where the other will lay hands on you !

[SpeciaLK]

When is enough finally enough.... I have realized over the past few months that enough is enough when you are just finally sick of giving your heart to someone only to have it come back to you in pieces. You can avoid people and emotions for so long, thinking they're not the right one for you, and then finally find the one that you think will treat you right... When even that doesn't work, that is when enough is enough... Love is really gay...
Whooo... sorry for bitching, but... ehh... I dunno... Guess I found it a little necessary to get it out... maybe warn some other people about this dangerous love character.... lol.

[lostinnj]

Miss Heavens Revenge, thos lyrics are 311 not sublime. get it right =P

[Heavens Revenge]

that reminds me of that ?sublime? song

hence the question marks = not sure and i dont care. :]